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Please update your subscriptions and links to continue listening to the new Not Crazy podcast with Gabe Howard and his ex-wife, Lisa. 

It's the mental health podcast for people who hate mental health podcasts. 

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Dec 14, 2021

We are returning for a limited run of 10 episodes with the first episode launching on January 4th, 2022. Episodes weekly through the end of the season.

Our original run ended in 2019 after garnering massive praise in the mental health community and boasting tens of thousands of listeners. 

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BSP is hosted by Gabe Howard and Michelle Hammer. Learn more about them here.